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Reclaiming Some Terms

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Mar 23, 2010 Author: 
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It has become really cool to hate on the church and Christians. A few years ago a book came out called They Like Jesus But Not the Church. I see people quoting Ghandi frequently with "I like your Christ. I do not like your Christians."

True followers of Jesus and members of His church need to reclaim the terms Christian and church.

Is there anyone else out there who thinks it's ridiculous the mindset people have about Christians? Especially other Christians! Let me see if I can reign in my thoughts because I'm feeling a bit scattered right now. Here are some thoughts:

1. You can't like Jesus and dislike Christians. People don't understand what they're saying when they say this. A Christian is someone who has been called by God to repent of their sins and proclaim Jesus as God. They are heirs to the throne of God, are freed from sin, and are citizens of the kingdom of God. Their time in this life is spent proclaiming the kingdom of God and helping others who are proclaiming as well--they are on the mission of God. They are the church.

I want to focus on two images the Bible uses to describe the relationship between Jesus and the church. The first one is that the church is called the body of Christ. In other words, the church is how Jesus functions in the world--it's how He moves, lives, and breathes on earth. If Jesus wants to accomplish something in the world, He does it through His church. Jesus' mission on earth happens through His church, and the church's mission is Jesus'.

A second image is that the church is called Jesus' bride. Yes, Jesus is portrayed as the groom, and the church is portrayed as the bride. Do you sense the serious connection here? The church and Jesus are married--and not married like our society says marriage functions. This is an eternal marriage--Jesus and the church are one flesh. They function together, have the same heartbeat, and have the same goals.

If you come up to me and say you like me but hate my wife, we will not be friends. And I might punch you in the throat.

This is the connection Jesus has with His church. If you hate Christians, you hate Jesus. If you hate the church, you hate Jesus. Hate.

2. Many people who claim to be Christians really aren't. Let me point to one illustration Jesus used when describing how we can know if someone is a Christian or not. It's the illustration of a vine and branches. Jesus said, speaking metaphorically, that He is the vine, and Christians are branches. If branches are connected to the vine, and the vine is healthy (and since Jesus is God, we know He is), the branches will produce fruit. The analogy is clear. If people are Christians, connected to Jesus, they will produce "fruit" (or good works) in their lives.

If someone claims to be a Christian and either (1) continually lives in sin, (2) hates someone, or (3) wants nothing to do with other Christians, then they are lying and are NOT a Christian (1 John).

We accept people into our churches as members WAY too easily. Some people who go to church have not produced fruit in years. Others are continually living in sin. Let's understand, these people are not Christians! And I second what Mark Dever said in his book The Deliberate Church when he mentioned that for a church to not rebuke a member to restore them, and to not kick them out when they refuse to repent is to give them a false hope of eternal life and right standing before a righteous God!  

3. If you are a Christian, you must have a deep, convicting, abiding love for other Christians. Read the book of 1 John for starters. In it the apostle wrote about how someone could know we are the disciples of Jesus: by our love for each other. So to say you don't love other Christians is to say you're not a follower of Jesus! You cannot hate another Christian and be one yourself.

Fellow believers, we must reclaim these terms to their true, biblical meanings! The kingdom of Jesus is why we're here, and to let people who aren't true believers defame and belittle the gospel and Jesus' kingdom is eternally harmful.

Jacob

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Stacy J Ross
Mar 23, 2010
01:48 pm
I almost totally agree with you. When people say "I like Jesus but not..." what they really mean is "I like this caricaturized (that may or may not be an actual word) Jesus like idol I've made." They like a Jesus that says "love your neighbors...turn the other cheek...let he who is without sin cast the first stone...neither do I condemn you." They have no place in their minds for a Jesus that... ...calls people a brood of vipers and asked them how they expected to escape the judgment of hell. ...twice was moved with righteous anger and cleared the temple by turning over the tables of the money changes, knocking down the animal pens and shouting for them to stop turning His Father’s house into a den of thieves. ...says unless you repent you will likewise perish...I am the way the truth and the life and no man comes to the Father except through me. ...willingly endured a brutal beating and suffered death on the cross to pay the penalty for THEIR sins. ...will one day return on a white horse wearing a robe that is wet with the blood of His enemies, strike down the nations with a sword and will rule the world as King of kings and Lord of lords. Excellent post.
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Jacob
Mar 23, 2010
01:55 pm
I'm with you Stacy. People think Jesus is a hippie who listens to Bob Marley. The only problem with that is, well, the Bible.
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Dan
Mar 23, 2010
02:34 pm
Hello! It seemsfrom the post, that you haven't actually read the book. The "They" in the title is not Christians, but people who aren't Christians. The book is written like a missionary study of contemporary culture and makes the point that people (non-Christians) don't know the biblical Jesus but have a pop-culture understanding of him. It gives a missionary study of how Christians are generally known by younger people in our culture. Same as the UnChristian" book, but that is the data and stats. They Like Jesus book is more interviews. It might help you understand the thrust of all this if you explore the actual book. It agrees with what you are saying and even has a section about how if we are Christians we love the Bride, His church, because Jesus loves the church. Anyway, read this from a Twitter post that appeared since my name was mentioned but then saw you went in a whole direction that isn't what the title is about as it isn't talking about Christians. Peace in Jesus, Dan
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Jeff Myers
Mar 23, 2010
03:30 pm
I used to be one of those people that loved Jesus, but hated the church. I've overcome this, but it was very real for me for a long time. (Some of that time being even when I was serving as a youth pastor!) It wasn't that I hated Christians; it was that I hated what the church had become. I think Jesus could have said something similar--maybe, "I love God, but hate the temple." He was disgusted at what the "worship" of his Father had become. I think the whole point of Dan Kimball's INCREDIBLE book, They Like Jesus, But Not the Church, is that there are non-Christians out there who are open to Jesus (even if they don't fully understand him), but are so turned off by what the Church has become that the Church itself is an obstacle to them embracing the gospel. The lessons in this book are some of the most valuable I've read as a church leader in the last decade. I think maybe you got up on the wrong side of the bed today. "I Like You, but Hate Your Post." (Just kidding. Just trying to be clever!)
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Jeff Myers
Mar 23, 2010
03:32 pm
BTW, I do agree with you that if you're a Christ-follower, you can't hate his bride. It took me a while to learn this, though.
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laura snowder
Mar 23, 2010
05:05 pm
please remember, a lot of these people don't know the difference between true christians and those who simply wear the name. a lot of them truly do like the idea of Christ but cannot reconcile it to the sheer number of those who take the name falsely. yes, those who give christianity a bad reputation are probably not christians, but the unchurched who see them often do not understand this, and even those who do have a hard time understanding why an all powerful God would allow His name to be so abused and misrepresented. if you have a hard time dealing with the popular image of the church as a negative entity, do not blame the unchurched who hold the opinion. instead, work to reform the church, to correct the image with love and compassion and understanding.
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Jacob
Mar 23, 2010
05:37 pm
Hey Dan, I read the book a few years ago and loved it. You're right about my mis-representation of it. Sorry about that. I have heard Christians think the same thing that unbelievers in your book did. That was my main point of this post. BTW I've heard you've met Matt Pinson, President of Free Will Baptist Bible College. I graduated from there. Small world. Thanks everyone else for your good thoughts!
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Jacob
Mar 24, 2010
06:03 am
Now that I've slept on it, I do think the same thing is true for unbelievers or believers. If you're an unbeliever and you like Jesus but not the church, you just don't really understand how the two interact. Those people are just confused, as Dan's book points out. So yes, I was talking about unbelievers and believers' misconception about who Jesus and the church really are.
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naomi
Apr 06, 2010
11:39 am
I enjoyed the read and you brought out some very interesting points.
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